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	<title>Comments on: Falling Knife: ELDERS LIMITED (ELD)</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Morel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Morel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I haven&#039;t, but a quick look now tells me I need to look harder. Thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I haven&#8217;t, but a quick look now tells me I need to look harder. Thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dean,

Have you been keeping up to date on Elders?  Just digging around at the moment.  Looks like we have company too - some institutional interest leading to a pop last week. Any thoughts?

Cheers
Rohan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dean,</p>
<p>Have you been keeping up to date on Elders?  Just digging around at the moment.  Looks like we have company too &#8211; some institutional interest leading to a pop last week. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Rohan</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even cheaper now at about 40c!

This is one for the true long term I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even cheaper now at about 40c!</p>
<p>This is one for the true long term I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Morel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Morel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elders are down 40% to 49cents after profit downgrade. http://asx.com.au/asxpdf/20100622/pdf/31qy75c9mjf6mv.pdf

How low can it go? Underlying EBIT to May was estimated as $39.2M and now $15M. Sales down, margins down and costs now being slashed. Weren&#039;t costs already slashed? 

Looking to the future. I&#039;ll keep watching Elders as if they ever right the ship they will have such a low cost basis in the business that profitability could take off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elders are down 40% to 49cents after profit downgrade. <a href="http://asx.com.au/asxpdf/20100622/pdf/31qy75c9mjf6mv.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://asx.com.au/asxpdf/20100622/pdf/31qy75c9mjf6mv.pdf</a></p>
<p>How low can it go? Underlying EBIT to May was estimated as $39.2M and now $15M. Sales down, margins down and costs now being slashed. Weren&#8217;t costs already slashed? </p>
<p>Looking to the future. I&#8217;ll keep watching Elders as if they ever right the ship they will have such a low cost basis in the business that profitability could take off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

Been working through the agricultural sector trying to get my head around valuations.  Haven&#039;t rummaged through Elders (but given their track record and small cap status - was going take time to get there).  My question is have you had a look at AWB?  Still a tad difficult to break it into pieces - but from what I can glean it&#039;s looking pretty good.  Assuming the grain trading sale and JV go through, the business will have immaterial debt and will essentially revolve around Landmark.  Expect transparency to improve - especially as management seem intent on simplifying the business. 

Gotta run - but just wanted to check whether you had looked at them?

Cheers
Rohan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>Been working through the agricultural sector trying to get my head around valuations.  Haven&#8217;t rummaged through Elders (but given their track record and small cap status &#8211; was going take time to get there).  My question is have you had a look at AWB?  Still a tad difficult to break it into pieces &#8211; but from what I can glean it&#8217;s looking pretty good.  Assuming the grain trading sale and JV go through, the business will have immaterial debt and will essentially revolve around Landmark.  Expect transparency to improve &#8211; especially as management seem intent on simplifying the business. </p>
<p>Gotta run &#8211; but just wanted to check whether you had looked at them?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Rohan</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Morel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Morel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note on Elders.
It appears like this falling knife may have bottomed.
Earning out today showed signs of the business gaining traction.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-16/elders-posts-first-half-net-loss-on-forestry-charges-update1-.html

&quot;Profit before one-time items was A$1.1 million, compared with a loss of A$21.8 million in the previous period, the company said. One-time, post-tax charges totaled A$167 million.&quot;

&quot;“The company anticipates a substantial lift in its earnings in the second half, given suitable rainfall in Western Australia and suitable market conditions,” Elders said in the statement. Full-year profit is also expected to benefit from increased live exports, it said.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick note on Elders.<br />
It appears like this falling knife may have bottomed.<br />
Earning out today showed signs of the business gaining traction.<br />
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-16/elders-posts-first-half-net-loss-on-forestry-charges-update1-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-16/elders-posts-first-half-net-loss-on-forestry-charges-update1-.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Profit before one-time items was A$1.1 million, compared with a loss of A$21.8 million in the previous period, the company said. One-time, post-tax charges totaled A$167 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;“The company anticipates a substantial lift in its earnings in the second half, given suitable rainfall in Western Australia and suitable market conditions,” Elders said in the statement. Full-year profit is also expected to benefit from increased live exports, it said.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 11:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Huntley&#039;s value it at 1.6, but I still wouldn&#039;t buy it at 60c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Huntley&#8217;s value it at 1.6, but I still wouldn&#8217;t buy it at 60c.</p>
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